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In so many societies, the most valuable thing in the world is a child. Blame has little to do with it and rarely changes the situation. Childbearing is profound (in the sense that it is ingrained in every culture). It is life continuing. Who was to "blame" when babies were born in Gulags? I guess walls of stone are not a lot different than walls of money. They can be overcome. Success stories are measured by obstacles that have been overcome. How do we know that that very child can't grow to become a great leader. Why waste time finding and laying blame? Rather we could use our energy effecting change.
very valid points. I'm going to change the wording of my question to make it a little better.
I'd go for A. It should be the aim of every society that no child be born into poverty. This may be an ideal that is never reached, but it is still an ideal that must be aspired to, as this ultimately is to the benefit of that society.

E. No one is to blame.

When a child is born, It's a fresh start; both for that child and its parents. There is no one or nothing to blame. It is human nature to strive to make things better for oneself. If the parents were to "just" have the baby and not try their best to improve their living conditions, then they are to blame. They should not have procreated in the first place. If the parents tried their best and provided their child with love, guidance, morals, food, clothing, etc; and the child still did not amount to anything, then it is the child's fault. We make decisions howsoever small and insignificant that changes our lives and those of others who come in contact with us.

This is ofcourse considering that there are no medical or health conditions that inhibits the individual from achieving his true potential. ha ha

The parents are to blame! Who else is responsible for the conception of the kid? Society didn't fuck the mother.
I'm assuming that by extreme poverty, we're talking like third-world, middle of drought ridden Africa poverty. The poverty in itself may be caused by society, but the birth of the child into that poverty is the parents responsibility. Society should never be held accountable for anything... the individual is what composes society, therefore it all comes down to what the individual does.
E. Nature is to blame. We can't all be so conceited that we think we're more powerful than nature it's self, as we are a product of it. If a child is born to poor circumstance, it is nature that developed the circumstance.

The child has a chance, all be it a small one, to overcome nature and nurture and become enlightened, to exist outside it's circumstance, and to defy the odds.

Our free will is constrained by nature and nurture. Our ability to nurture is constrained by nature and our free will. Our nature is defined by the circumstance of our predecessors.

So we start with a clean slate, a chance to defy nature and nurture, a chance to exercise our free will, but how many of us will be successful?

Ummm... Thank god we developed contraceptives to defy nature.
I have to say the parents for sure. Basically what Bishop up there said, society didn't fuck the mother indeed and I think that basically is where the problem begins.
I say society in some instances, the parents in others. Society may not have 'fucked the mother', but many societies make getting adequate sexual health education, contraception and access to abortion nearly impossible. Many societies around the world are also reliant on keeping the lowest rung workers as poor as possible with barely adequate minimum wages and insufficient welfare programs so that they have an unending pool of cheap labour with no regard for the impact on the family. And quite a few countries have no welfare system whatsoever, forcing impoverished families to have many children just so they have a financial safety net in their later years. If a baby was born into those circumstances then society is to blame for its poverty.

If, however, the parents have decided to have a baby despite their poverty, and they have ample opportunities to escape their situation but choose not to do so, then they have to accept some responsibility for the situation. However, if the parents cannot elevate themselves out of poverty due to the structure of the society then society is still responsible for the baby's circumstances.

I'd argue that there are many more instances where it is society's responsibility to address at child poverty rather than it being solely the responsibility of the parents.
I like the topic... goooo chris!
I'd just point out that Chris changed "blame" to "accountable". If a society chooses not to be accountable for a child being born into poverty, then that society must be held accountable for the consequences of that decision, such as the likelihood that child will turn to crime as a means to survival. Also, such a society should seriously question its commitment to the humanitarian ideals of the civilised world. Thankfully, some in the global society have recognised that commitment by creating organisations such as this.
I'd have to agree that no one is accountable. There may be instances when the parents have accountability for deliberately choosing to have a child despite their circumstances, but that is assuming that the parents wanted to do so. So I don't see how they can be held completely accountable when you look at situations like rape or unwanted pregnancies. It is also important not to shove the accountability onto society, because that is assuming that the parents did everything they could to become successful. i personally think there is a wide variety of answers to the accountability of a poverty born child, but it is important not to point to one aspect and assume it is the problem.
Does the child ultimately enjoy life? Does he or she succeed? Is he or she loved and looked after adequately? Does extreme poverty automatically make these things not so? I'm not so sure.

At any rate, blaming people, even a whole society, because of a set of circumstances doesn't make much sense to me.
It is also important not to shove the accountability onto society, because that is assuming that the parents did everything they could to become successful.
It also assumes that global society has done everything it could to help the parents be successful. Clearly this is not the case, otherwise there would be no sense in creating organisations like "Make Poverty History".

As an immigrant, I can definitely say that America is the land of opportunity. Compared to the third-world countries, it is a whole lot easier for hard working people to achieve their goals in life. For example, it is relatively easier to buy a house, car and other amenities that make life comfortable. In other words, it is very easy to satisfy one's basic needs in America; which then enables people to focus on other important aspects of their lives such as building a career, business or family, OR responding to posts/questions like these (if you asked this question in another part of the world, you'd probably get laughed at... and then someone would give you a dope slap)

In a third world country, it is typical to find too many people and too few resources. That brings about hoarding, grabbing and general corruption. The root cause of corruption, in my opinion, is politics and politicians. It is they who shape the country and its society.

Fortunately we live in a society that allows the leisure and opportunity for reflection.

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